Dennis "Blues Boss" Dudley (BB) interview with Tim "Too Slim" Langford (TS) - May 2010
Tim “Too Slim” Langford (Too Slim & the Taildraggers) has been a mainstay of the Pacific NW music scene for almost 3 decades. Originally from Eastern, Washington (Spokane), Tim now makes his home in Seattle - when he is not touring all over the U.S., with the occasional trip to U.K. or Europe – his most recent being Ireland in 2009.
I met Tim at the Winthrop Blues Festival in 1999, and over the past 10 plus years he and I have become good friends. Too Slim has appeared in 3 of the 4 Slide Guitar Showcases I have produced in Seattle (from 2002 to 2006) - and, he even came out and performed (with the Mark Riley Trio and Henry Cooper) at my 60th birthday party.
The following is a recent interview I did with Tim for the Washington Blues Society’s Bluesletter - reprinted with their approval - I’m the Vice President of the Washington Blues Society, so it’s easy to get the approval.
Dennis “Blues Boss” Dudley
Orchestra so after I graduated high school he told me The SJO was looking for a guitar player, so I audition and I got the seat. I was scared shitless most of the time playing in that band because they were all such good musicians and I was younger than everybody in the band by a good 10-20 years. I performed with them for two years, it was intimidating, but a great learning experience.
While I was playing with the Spokane Jazz Orchestra I also played in a country band on the weekends called the Hombres. I was also going to college studying music theory during this time. I got tired of school and quit after a couple years and I had a job as a bellhop at The Red Lion Motor Inn in Spokane. They wanted to do 50’s and 60’s music on Sunday nights and the GM new I was a musician. He asked me if I wanted the gig, so I started a band called the Studebakers at that time which eventually evolved into an original punk /rockabilly band. We toured the West Coast in the early 80’s and got a record deal with Allegiance Records, which was Spencer Davis’s label. Just as our record was going to be released his label folded.
TS: I have always loved music ever since I can remember. I was the kind of kid that snuck his transistor radio into bed at night. When I first heard the Beatles and then saw them on TV, I was captivated. My older cousin Steve was a musician and I was fascinated with his guitars. When I was a little older I started going to concerts and I saw bands like ZZ Top, Aerosmith, Eric Clapton, and Santana. I thought those loud guitars were the coolest thing on earth and I had to get me one! A friend of mine named Forrest Schumacher loaned me his acoustic guitar and I started messing around with it. My Dad hated Rock and Roll, but I wanted to learn how to play real bad. One day I summoned up all the courage I could and told him “I want to take guitar lessons and I need you to pay for it” thinking he would blow a gasket, but to my amazement he just said, “OK”. I eventually saved up enough money to buy a cheap Japanese guitar and a Silvertone amp to replace my friend’s acoustic guitar. My Mom must have recognized that I was serious about playing guitar and later she bought me a Fender Stratocaster and there was no looking back!! I didn’t own a good guitar amp till I was about 18 or 19. I just borrowed the school amp or an amp from my teachers.
BB: I heard some rumor that you were in a jazz ensemble band in high school.”
TS: I took guitar lessons all through high school from three different teachers who were jazz guitarists. They all played chord melody style guitar, which seems to be a lost art these days. I wanted to learn everything and play as much as possible, so I joined the stage band and choir as the guitarist. My high school band teacher was the conductor of the Spokane Jazz
period. I was into country rock bands like Charlie Daniels and The Marshall Tucker Band in the mid 70’s. In the late 70’s I liked Frank Zappa and Jimi Hendrix and the Allman Brothers. In the early 80’s I was into Pat Metheny, Jeff Lorber, The Dixie Dregs, and Jeff Beck. By the mid 80’s I was into Freddie King, Otis Rush, Albert Collins Johnny Winter, Gatemouth Brown, The Fabulous Thunderbirds, Robert Cray and Stevie Ray Vaughan. By the early 90’s I was into Reverend Horton Heat and Nirvana then back to Lightnin Hopkins! I just try to be myself now.
BB : Where did the Too Slim come from?”
TS: Well I will do my best to recollect the official story on how I got the “Too Slim” moniker. From what I remember, the singer from the Studebakers dubbed me “Too Slim”. I had that cowboy hat I liked to wear from when I played with that country band and I guess I was a probably a skinny little shit to boot. He said I reminded him of the guy in the band “Riders in the Sky” who went by the name of “Too Slim” so it just kind of stuck. When we were trying to think of a name for the band we came up with “The Taildraggers”. It was from that old Howlin’ Wolf song “I’m a Taildragger”. It’s a song about the backdoor man and how he slips out the back door and he never get’s caught because a Taildragger wipes his tracks!! I was encouraged to add the Too Slim portion by the folks in attendance at the official band naming meeting that night after a lot of beer drinking. I actually did not want to call the band “TOO SLIM AND the Taildraggers” I thought just “The Taildraggers” sounded cool, but I guess I‘m stuck with it now!!
BB: “Aren’t you one of the founding fathers of the Winthrop R&B Festival? How did that all get started?
TS: I used to play Jim Smith’s club the Palace in Winthrop. Jim Smith and I came up with the blues festival idea over many drinks at many after hour sessions. We just kept brainstorming about how it could be done. I think my contribution to the birth of the festival was trying to keep Jim excited and motivated to actually do it. I had lots of contacts and Jim had the money, the time, and constitution to get it done. The Winthrop festival was cultivated in the wee wee hours. I think it is probably one of the longest running festivals in the Northwest and set the blueprint for many of the other regional festivals that followed.
TS: I started Too Slim and the Taildraggers on Jan.1, 1986. I was done with the direction The Studebakers had taken and I wanted to start a blues band. I had seen The Robert Cray Band back in 1979 when I was in college and it really changed my whole perspective. They were so good I can’t even begin to describe how much fun it was to see them perform. I saw that band every chance I could and stole as many licks and ideas that I could from them. I tried to incorporate all the things I learned from watching The Robert Cray Band over the years to prepare myself for the time when I would have my own blues band. Too Slim and the Taildraggers first record is actually very Robert Cray influenced. I did the best interpretation a skinny white boy from Spokane could do to make a record as good as the ones Robert Cray was putting out. Robert Cray was a big star by then. Robert Cray is the person that first told me about Stevie Ray Vaughan. It was back in about 1980 or so. I figured if Robert Cray thought Stevie Ray was a badass he must really be good and I kept my eye out for him. One day I was flipping through the record bin and saw Stevie’s first album called “Texas Flood”, which I of course bought. I listened to it I suddenly felt like I didn’t know how to play guitar at all!! It was back to the drawing board. I have many other blues guitar influences such as BB King, Freddie King, Otis Rush, Lightning Hopkins, T-Bone Walker, and Robert Johnson. My rock guitar influences are Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Duane Allman, Billy Gibbons, Jeff Beck, Neil Young and John Fogerty. My jazz influences are Kenny Burrell, Wes Montgomery, Mike Stern and Charlie Christian. I go through phases with the kind of music I like to listen to. I have been listening to John Hiatt a lot lately. I am really into a band called Drive by Truckers now too. Before that all I listened to was Lightnin Hopkins and Neil Young. I went through a Miles Davis and Ray Charles
TS: I have 10 studio albums, 4 live albums, 2 solo acoustic albums and have a few compilation discs.” Just to give people a short history lesson on the bands recordings, the first Too Slim and the Taildragger CD was financed by a loan from a friend of mine from high school named Wayne Eberspecher. We recorded “Swingin in the Underworld” (1988) “Rock em Dead” (1990) then I signed up with Burnside Records out of Portland in 1992 and did 5 albums with them. Nancy and I now have Underworld Records and we release our albums independently. We distribute internationally through BDC. Underworld seems to have taken on a life of it’s own and we are now releasing albums by other artists such as” Jim Suhler and Monkey Beat” (George Thorogood guitarist) from Dallas, TX, whose current album “Tijuana Bible” is nominated for “Best Blues/Rock Album at the BMA awards this year. We also have another Texas artist “Jason Elmore and Hoodoo Witch” coming out in April and “Becki Sue & Her Big Rockin Daddies” coming out in June. Burnside Records was resurrected by Allegro Music in 2008 and they released a live Too Slim and the Taildraggers CD called “Time to Live” in late 2009. The whole Too Slim and the Taildraggers catalog is now available digitally and on CD on all the usual sites (iTunes ,Amazon, etc.)
TS: “Free your Mind”, our latest CD charted as high as #5 on the Billboard Top Blues Album chart this last summer, which is our highest chart ranking to date. The Fortune Teller our previous release got as high as #9 on the Billboard Chart. We have charted 17 times on Billboard in the last three years and I don’t know how many people are aware of that, but I have to give the credit to Nancy our manager who is also my wife and dearest friend. Nancy does so much work behind the scenes. We would not have the success we’ve had without Nancy’s hard work and vision. It’s great to have someone I can trust, watching my back.
TS: Essies South American Sauce is the best damn sauce on the planet!! It is a meat marinade invented by Nancy’s mother and father, Esther (Essie) and Barry Davis, who owned a restaurant in Mandan ND called the Seven Seas. Esther retired from the company a few years back and Nancy and I now run the company. It is sold in grocery stores throughout the Midwest. We are currently working on West Coast distribution in the stores but it is available via mail order, on the Essies website www.essiessauce.com as well as Amazon.com and the Too Slim and the Taildraggers website www.tooslim.org
Thanks Blues Boss for taking the time to ask these questions, you have always been an avid supporter of Too Slim and the Taildraggers and the blues community as a whole. I want to thank all of our family and fans for being so supportive over all these years. I am grateful to have the opportunity to play music for a living. I could not do it without all you people out there that come to the shows and buy our CD’s.
Thank you and I hope to see you at the next show!!
Tim “Too Slim “Langford
Website - www.tooslim.org
MySpace - www.myspace.com/tooslimandthetaildraggers
BB: “Your current line-up includes Polly O’Keary on bass and Tommy Cook on drums. How is it having somebody on stage that is better looking than you are? And, can sing?”
TS: Well, that is interesting that you noticed how good looking Tommy is Blues Boss, but seriously, I am grateful to have Tommy Cook and Polly O’Keary in the band now, and yes, Polly is a lovely and talented woman and she sure can sing!! Tommy and Polly are helping me take the band to a new level. It has been a year since Tommy and Polly joined the band, and now that they have a good handle on the Too Slim and the Taildragger catalog, we are having some really great moments on stage. I love working with Tommy and Polly, they are great musicians and great people as well. I can’t wait to do a new CD with them.
BB: “Anything spectacular or unusual coming up for you in 2010?”
TS: In 2010 we plan on touring a great deal to support “Free Your Mind” which was voted “Best Album” by the Inland Empire Blues Society and is nominated by the Washington Blues Society for a B.B. in the same category. I have been writing songs, so we hope a new CD will be in the works by the end of the year. We have new releases on Underworld Records which also has one of our Artists Jim Suhler nominated for a BMA award which is the Blues equivalent of the Grammy’s. Nancy and I are also expanding our other company “Essies South American Sauce”
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